Relationship Matters

Bonus: Quantum Curiosity with Marita Fridjhon

April 06, 2022 CRR Global Season 3
Relationship Matters
Bonus: Quantum Curiosity with Marita Fridjhon
Show Notes Transcript

In this episode, Katie is talking with CRR Global co-founder and CEO Marita Fridjhon about curiosity and quantum flirts. Building off their last conversation in which they explored chasing the speed of change, they explore how quantum flirts- or tiny synchronistic signals in the world around us- can help us to slow down and see situations differently. The term, ‘Quantum flirt’ comes from the work of Arnold Mindell, to describe the most fleeting perceptions. It's called a quantum flirt since it’s short-lived and has the feel of the universe winking at you! Across the episode Marita and Katie discuss the power of a “yes and…” mindset, using distractions in the world around us as a way into relationship, dancing with whatever emerges, and seeing the abundance in all things.

Marita Fridjhon is co-owner and CEO of CRR Global and mentor to an ever-growing community of practitioners in the field of Relationship Systems work. She designs curriculum and operates training programs in Relationship Systems Work for coaches, executives and teams. She came to this work from an extensive background in Clinical Social Work, Community Development, Process Work, Family Systems Therapy, Business Consulting and Alternative Dispute Resolution. She has an international mentor coaching practice of individuals, partnerships and teams. Her primary focus in coaching is on systemic change, leveraging diversity, creative communication, deep democracy in conflict management and the development of Learning Organizations.


For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time

We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.

Relationship Matters Season 3 Bonus Episode 2 

Key 

 

KC – Katie Churchman 

MF - Marita Frijon

 

[Intro 00:00 – 00:06] 

 

KC – Hello and welcome back to the Relationship Matters podcast. We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity, to nature, to the larger whole. I’m your host, Katie Churchman, and I’m back with another bonus episode with CRR Global co-founder and CEO Marita Frijon. In this episode we’re exploring quantum flirts and quantum curiosity. Building off our last episode in which we explored chasing the speed of change, we’ll look at how quantum flirts or tiny synchronistic signals in the world around us can help us to slow down and see situations differently. The term quantum flirt comes from the work of Arnold Mindell, to describe the most fleeting perceptions. We call it a quantum flirt since it’s short-lived and has the feel of the universe winking at you. This was a really playful, fun conversation that covered a lot of ground including the power of a ‘yes, and…’ mindset, using distractions in the world around us as a way into relationship, dancing with whatever emerges and seeing the abundance in all things. Whilst recording this episode Marita and I had to model the dancing with quantum flirts or the distractions that showed up unexpectedly, as is the nature of life somehow always managing to keep us on our toes. So without further ado I give you Marita Frijon. 

 

 

KC – Marita, welcome back to the Relationship Matters podcast, always a joy to have you on the show. 

 

MF – Thank you Katie, always a pleasure to be with you. 

 

KC – I’m very curious about this topic today, quantum curiosity, because we ended our last call, the podcast on chasing the speed of change, when the phone rang and it was almost like a sign from somewhere else that we should finish our podcast and move on. So tell me more about this whole quantum curiosity piece. 

 

MF – Well, you know, it’s one of the things Arnie Mindell suggested, you know, first started talking about, he brought the concept of quantum flirts into the conversation, that there is something happening out there that is not designed by us, it’s a quantum flirt, it’s something that’s trying to get our attention. We can’t pay attention to all of the quantum flirts but there’s just about always something in there. So what’s interesting it’s, with you, since talking about the pace of evolution vs the speed of change, quantum flirts happen as soon as you started talking, the gardeners arrived outside and the moment we started recording they came back from the back of the house and they now are mowing right in front of my window so there’s probably a noise. So the question then is if we were to feel into that, and you can feel how the moment you pay attention to quantum flirt, they already begin to slow down. Is this a quantum flirt, now we are open to our own being influenced by the universe or whatever, is this quantum flirt that is the noise that’s happening outside, what does that mean? What does the analogy or the metaphor for some of what feel and think there? I'm thinking about just the noise of crisis, the sound of aggression, everything that's happening around, there's a lot of noise in the human background at the moment. Anything from war in Ukraine to war in other places to climate crisis. All of those can be seen as quantum universe sending information to us. Can we pay attention to all of them? Probably not. Do we need to pay attention to those that repeatedly show up in your space? In my space? And then begin to noodle with that, what might need to be done or picked up about it? 

 

KC – It really has slowed us down, Marita. I came into this conversation running out of the gates and now we’ve stopped for a moment just as there’s a lawn mower sound in the background. 

 

MF – Well, and some of that stopping, I think, is allowing us to be in that space of, it’s really easy for me to step out of the door and go can you guys go and mow at the back or come back or whatever. There’s a consensus reality, quote/unquote “fix”. But we can’t fix everything in consensus reality so if we just pause the doing and the rushing and just sit with what might that be a signal of for me to pay attention to in my own evolution? What might that be meaning as a signal to you and me in a podcast where sound quality is so important? What does it say about the challenges that all of us face? And how do we sometimes allow the failure instead of rushing out to go and exit? It's that reflection that I think is part of the evolution of mankind. And I think that's what I'm talking about when I'm talking about the shift from the speed of change to the pace of evolution. That kind of pause. 

 

KC – Yeah, it’s a, it’s a kind of pause and a dance with as opposed to fighting it, we’re sort of pulling it in aren’t we? 

 

MF – I love that. The thing of systems being a constant state of emergence. How do I create from it rather than react to it by immediately trying to fix it or blame it? 

 

KC – Yeah. 

 

MF – That’s the piece, it’s that we always have a choice over our reactions. 

 

KC – This makes me think a lot, Marita, of the improviser mindset. 

 

MF – Say more. 

 

KC – So in improvisation there's a rule of thumb called 'yes, and…'. And as opposed to saying 'yes, but', you say 'yes, and' and you build on the previous offer. And this can be used in business scenarios, conversations with your family, it's really helpful as a way of building, building from rather than reacting to, putting up a block. And I think so often in our lives we're putting up blocks. Oh, the noise, it's interrupting the podcast or, oh sorry, that's not where this conversation is going, and it's actually just blocking, blocking, blocking, and it's not ever building on what's showing up. 

 

MF – I love that, that kind of conversation, the difference between ‘yes, but’ and ‘yes, and’, it’s very, you can just hear in the tonality of it, it’s a very different approach. One is inviting in, the other one is already rejecting. The but is already… the tone of that is already a rejection. So one of the things that I’m sitting with Katie as you and I sit in this conversation and wonder, if we describe the one point we have at the moment and the interesting thing is often when I’m will gathering, I need to break eye contact because I get so involved with the person that’s in front of me that I lose my thinking. So when I look away, as the noise is happening, I also see the truck standing outside and it has a yellow stripe across the entire truck. Right about at door handle level. So if we take the quantum flirt, auditory, that is happening with the noise, and then there is a visual, so we talk about hearing, seeing and sensing what’s happening around us. It’s also a visual signal that has a yellow stripe that’s going into red/orange. And it lines up right with the door knob, door handle of the car. So there is something there to slow down, that’s what the yellow line asks us to do, stop in time if we need to or rush through if we’re trying to get away from it. So it’s that, it’s noise and then there’s the pause and stop because there’s a yellow going into red. So it’s that piece. And part of what I’m seeing and what I’m trying to do sense making with it, part of what I’m sitting with is in this moment, you and I in this conversation, are actually normalizing that all of us are surrounded by sound that gets our attention. We’re surrounded by warning signals of something that can go wrong. The moment I open that, you can feel how, and if we can sit with that and just know that it is happening, some version is happening to everybody. And then there's that in, if I know meet somebody from that place they too are surrounded by sound that's disturbing. They too are seeing yellow lines that are slowing them down. I immediately meet them differently from who the achieving, trying, wanting to solve things Marita is, goes to somebody. It's that piece and that for me, I think, is how quantum flirts relates to, we can go into that kind of reflection then there's a different access point that helps us care very differently about the fact that relationship matters. 

 

KC – Yeah, oh there’s so much in that Marita. Firstly I think it’s that idea we come back to that we can create from rather than react to whatever emerges. 

 

MF – That’s it. 

 

KC – And also that there is wisdom in these signals and I love that you’ve got this whole narrative out of that and we hadn’t planted this, we hadn’t planned the van to be outside during this call. 

 

MF – No! So how do we do… there’s a place where we, me in the environment that I grew up, that you needed to be careful because there may be real danger around because of the stance that I took as a white kid, a white child, in South Africa against racism. So there’s a guardedness that I can view the world with or there is a curiosity where I can go, I wonder what the heck that means? So, there’s something, it happens around us all the time but if we can use that for our own evolution and use it to remember that we all, as humans, sitting in similar seats, that I don’t have to go to war with you. But we need to do that so early on and some of what you and I, I think, talked about before and what you talked to Jennifer Pernfuss about, is that thing whereby the time that we didn't pay enough attention to the signals, by the time that something goes to a legal battle already, it's a little bit too late to make the changes that needed to be in place in order for that not to happen. It’s the same with the war and things that we see around us at the moment. What were the quantum flirts, what were the signals that we missed for years and years and years? And then something explodes. 

 

KC – You’re making me even more appreciate the power of mind wandering. I’ve come back to this a lot lately, and I think quite often when we’re just doing nothing and our mind’s wandering, we think of as wasted time. If we’re not doing something or talking to someone or listening to a podcast at the very least we’re being unproductive. And they say more and more mind wandering is when our thoughts connect and create, I guess, real ingenuity and creativity and innovation, and we don’t have much space for that anymore because we’re always busy! 

 

MF – That’s it. I just noticed how there is, can you feel how one of the things we talked about that came from the Jung psychology that talks about the concept of enantiodromia. 

 

MF – Enantiodromia, spells exactly like it’s pronounced, like that, enantiodromia is the principal where if you, from a systemic perspective, if you go into something that shows up, if you go into that deep enough, it also becomes its opposite. SO if you resist the anger and don’t have ways that you can work with the anger then you stay angry. If there’s a place where you can find the reflective space, work with the coach, work with whoever, to be able to go into that anger without acting on it, it automatically becomes something else. So it’s that figure 8 motion that is the infinity symbol, if I stay for long enough and sink into my happiness, it may also connect me with my grief. If I then stay for long enough with my grief, I’ll come out again to the opposite of it. 

 

KC – Wow. 

 

MF – So, enantiodromia is that ability. And that’s why when we teach intelligence or when we do different work that we go into deeper with the thing that shows up, because if we don’t, anger remains unresolved and that’s when the explosions happen. 

 

KC – I love this, you’re giving me a whole new found love for being, I guess, “unproductive”, quote/unquote, because actually you could use that and say being unproductive, mind wandering, is actually in itself a path, potentially, for creativity and deep thought. 

 

MF – That's it. And it's also when there's also the law of non-vocality, that I often talk about, that is in quantum physics, that is if you and I sit and go deeply into this disturbance that is sound, this disturbance that is showing through on the auditory side, it's also visual across there, it's also more than sensing when we think about what's happening in our world at the moment with global climate change, with Ukrainian war, with… name it. If we stay in that without going deeper into it or without paying attention to the signals that’s outside of us, right here, right now, it’s difficult for us to work it on the level that only can work. And if you and I sit in this conversation now and unfold the noise and the warning signals and all of that and how we might work with that, the law of non-vocality says that we already, if the two of us we do some of that, it also changes something everywhere else. So to the extent that we can process and sit in the noise, sit in the warning signals and find our own wisdom or answers that come from that, it already changes things somewhere else for other people. 

 

KC – Think what I love about that is we’re talking about also taking it to those different levels, so not just trying to solve a problem with our brains. And I think the greatest like Einstein famously, apparently, always went for a bike ride when he was stuck on a problem because he wanted to get all those quantum flirts informing how he thought. And I think that's what you're talking to here, it's like what else is information here that I can process in a deeper, different way? 

 

MF – Yes, it’s that and then the other thing that I think you and I touched on briefly, I can’t remember whether it was the last podcast or… I think we talked about it, is the thing with quantum flirts is to begin to get curious about which of those recur constantly. 

 

KC – Ok. 

 

MF – So, and it was interesting because you and I last time had one of the phone ringing that said maybe we need to close now. Today, as we started, there was the noise. And it’s not just happening with you and me, it’s just because we’re paying attention to it. So there is something about what is the quantum flirt trying to convey to this third entity that sits on this call? There’s something about pay attention to when you need to stop. That showed as the phone ringing and therefore may be a signal that we're done. There's something but pay attention to the noise and the warning signals out there and create from it. Can you see how there's a certain kind of something that reoccurs? So if there are quantum flirts that you notice something is oh my gosh, I've never seen that, and then something like that never shows up again, but there's usually a theme that you can see in quantum flirts that repeats itself, depending on what my own, your own specific vertical developmental journey is. 

 

KC – Wow, ok. And if we're distracted then, as many of us are, we're not going to notice those themes and patterns. We're going to miss them. 

 

MF – Pausing and paying attention is the only place that we can find those. We can get irritated by them and that’s the piece. It’s like something begins to repeat itself to the extent that it’s like oh, for goodness sake, and we just shut that down. That means that we’re no longer Teflon for it. It is happening to many, and that’s a place where we pause, that is ok, what is this trying to tell me? And then be open to influence of what comes up because there is no magic answer, there is no scientific response, there is only that which is available for me, the person that experiences the flirt. What is available to me to do with it in this moment? 

 

KC – Yeah, and I think what I love about that is that you’re not ‘yes, but’-ing, you’re ‘yes, and’-ing it. But ‘yes, and’ isn’t agreeing, it’s aligning and I think that’s the difference between sometimes people come into an improvisation workshop and they’re like I don’t agree with everything so why would I ‘yes, and’? You don’t have to say ‘yes, and’, that’s a wonderful interruption there, thank you so much. It’s ‘yes, and’, isn’t that interesting because we were just talking about distractions, that’s the build. 

 

MF – That’s it. And for me the ‘yes, and’ that you’re talking about is part of what I think about as bridge building. And I think what humanity needs at the moment is all of it. It needs tradition holders that say we need to protect the piece that we know how to handle. There are leapers that say no, we’ve got to change everything. There is that middle group that is bridge builder that can sit in the land of tradition holder that says we can’t just blow everything up that we know, but the bridge holder also understands what’s happening in the leaper land where let’s just go and get it done. We need bridge holders because they can look at what’s happening around us in our world, there are so many places where people are holding the tradition of what needs to continue to happen. Some of that is good. There are so many disrupters because leapers are often disrupters that are saying not that, that. True movement happens from enough people that can build the bridge between those, so the ‘yes, and’ is bridge building. 

 

KC – Yeah. 

 

MF – That’s the piece that we know about. And that goes across to more leaping and more curiosities. So I think that bridge building is one of the biggest challenges that we have or opportunities that we have. 

 

KC – Yeah, and it’s very much a mindset, I mean ‘yes, and’ is a tool that you can use, you can’t just say ‘yes, and I think you’re wrong’ because that’s a ‘yes, but mindset, but ‘yes, and’ is a mindset I guess we can hold in our own minds as well, even if we’re not actively using the language, you hear the gardener outside and ok, I’m reacting to that, it’s annoying… ‘yes, and’, what that might be telling me right now? To slow down. And I’ve never thought about it as something you can take out of language and just into sort of your mindset. 

 

KC – I think so, I really do. And I do think that’s, I think I’ve said it before, I’ve said it each day, I don’t know how many times. But I think the evolution of mankind will depend on that. Whatever it is that can allow us to pay attention to the signals, slow down, make sense of that, create from that. The signals that come our way are very often simple consensus reality pieces like somebody coming to mow our lawn. But there’s also other pieces that is associated with that that takes us even deeper so I do think it's that slowing down to create from, the principle of systems being in constant emergence, and the thing that we value, that relationship matters. I know, for example, that this conversation, when I am in a difficult call later this morning with a medical insurance system where they miss something or different things happen or whatever, if I can remember this quantum flirt of noise and its distraction and if I can meet them on that call knowing that in their land they probably also experience a lot of noise, a lot of distraction, how do I meet them in that and not become the next bit of noise that shows up for them? Because as long as I remain part of the noise I can't meet them and they can't meet me because it is already a failure. When we do this work ourselves it really hones us to be better in meeting those that are across from us, whether we know or not. Because everybody sits in noise at the moment and everybody is surrounded by warning signals – let’s meet there. 

 

KC – Yeah. And it takes us to the wider systems doesn’t it? I mean obviously it’s that listening to yourself and so often we miss physical signals of I didn’t listen to knee pain for a long time and then I ended up having four knee surgeries so I had to listen eventually, signals came knocking! But then there’s those wider signals, socially, culturally, universally, and maybe there are just more and more and more and they’ll get louder and louder until we have to listen. 

 

MF – Well, and often these quantum flirts help create easy access points to the people across from us in difficult conversations. Because if I can sit in a difficult conversation with somebody and go I’m really curious, I’m not aware of some of the noise that’s happening in my world at the moment, I’m curious what some of the noise is you hear. You know, an example that I’m using is just that I was in an important conversation and the noise of mowing lawns interrupted us. What are some of the things that interrupted…? If I can step into that conversation, I actually am in a relationship conversation that is not strategic. But it gives both of us access points to meet one another where we really are, then we can go to this strategic or whatever the topic is, but we’re already in a very different mode or mood or metaskill, whatever you want to call it. 

 

KC – That’s so true, I think the other day I found my chair really uncomfortable and I was meeting a new client and it was distracting me, so I said right at the beginning of the call, don’t you find sitting all day challenging and it was something that I think they’d experienced too, but I think it takes it to the real sort of normal human stuff.. 

 

MF – Human stuff! 

 

KC – Human stuff, that technical side …. 

 

MF – Normal human stuff! Underscore what you’ve just said, yes, yes. But you can see how we get around it by gifts that irritate us. 

 

KC – Yes, and aren’t they gifts! 

 

MF – If I turn them into a gift and say ok, I’m going to yell and scream at you for a little bit, let me just not go and yell and scream at the person that creates the noise, because it's me that's irritated by it. So the story that I've told so many times with Cooper Ross, is that when medical social worker for asking her the question that they really are uncomfortable with their dying patients and their families, yelling and screaming at God, and Cooper Ross going quiet and looking at them and said 'let them scream, God can take it, it's us that can't'. So there's something about knowing then wanting to scream against it is a normal reaction in an abnormal situation. As long as I don't go and scream at the person, his or herself, because that's what we do these days. There's something that irritates us and we step out and we go and attack, that's how we build the aggression that leads us to the place we are now. 

 

KC – And there are so many gifts around us. I’ve become ever more aware of how distracted we all are. I’m reading this amazing book, I’d recommend to everyone, it’s called Stolen Focus by Johann Hari. 

 

MF – I’ve seen it. I’ve not read it. 

 

KC – Yeah. It’s really fantastic, it’s all about how our focus is being stolen, primarily by technology, but also the fact that – [phone rings] oh my gosh, we’re having our focus stolen! It’s like a plant. 

 

MF – Well, what is interesting is it’s stolen by, what says on my phone, is potential spam. 

 

KC – Oh my gosh, it couldn’t have been… 

 

MF – So, that in itself is a signal that some signals, some noise, is spam. I don't have to pay attention to that. But can you see how once I begin to pay attention there's an evolution? Sorry, go ahead about the book… 

 

KC – No, but it’s so true isn’t it, because I was about to say how our notifications and things like that are sort of pulling us away and then we’re not able to see maybe these other signals in the world. But he also, he talks to focus but also the power of mind wandering and actually if you’re stuck, your best solution is often to go for a walk, change your environment and just look around, look at the clouds, look at the birds, look at the people, and just get different stimuli on board. Because then you’ll be, I guess, using your wider intelligence. 

 

MF – That’s it. I love that and I love, what had my attention was the title of the book which said Stolen Focus. And then the moment you said that we had a spam call coming in that stole our focus. But it was spam. But can you see how there is a weave that is trying to help us evolve, being created around us, all day, every day? It's a web that is trying to inform us. It’s something that is calling us to deeper and different attention. It’s something that is trying to not steal our focus but actually bring us to focus. [Phone rings]. 

 

KC – It really is. 

 

MF – Potential spam! Putting it down. But can you see, that’s the repeating signal. There’s noise that steals the focus, this is not something to pay attention to, to put it down. But can you see how that’s a very different, my interpretation from my limited self, is that there’s something I need to, some noise that I need to pay attention too, there’s some noise that’s spam. It’s not mine to work… there’s even just in this. 

 

KC – And even just in this we ‘yes, and’-ed it, even though we didn’t spend much time with it, because I think five years ago I would have been really flustered by that, I would have been like oh, shall we stop recording and it probably would have thrown me off, and then we would have lost the gift in the annoying disruption. 

 

MF – That’s it, yeah. Well I think that when we go back to that how do we create a sense of belonging, I think it’s actually when we can sit in a distraction with one another that there’s belonging. Because five years ago this would have separated us, but today, with a different ability to tolerate and create from, it actually creates a better bond. The thing we talked about with what Covid gave us, that when people need to work from home, yes it irritates us with having to go onto Zoom, sitting on Zoom the whole day, but it allows us to have our cat jump on our lap or to have our kid tap on the shoulder and that way I could sit with you in your room in a way that I couldn’t when you were in front of me in a course room, or in a coaching session. It really, again, when we take that quantum view of what was the quantum flirt, what is the quantum flirt of Covid trying to teach us? There’s some good stuff there. It actually has brought some of us humanity in a different way to interact with each other. There’s this something there, this is a rough guess on my part and it’s a personal opinion but my sense sometimes is that it is going to take the quantum flirt of global climate change that ultimately will bring humanity together because that is not political, that is not territorial, that is all of us. It is one of the strongest quantum flirts that we are sitting with as humanity at the moment. 

 

KC – And let’s hope those spam calls don’t take us away from working together and solving it. 

 

MF – Can you see how there’s already a piece of what is the spam that I don’t, I place, don’t, Marita, become annoyed with that and I just put it down and work the pieces that chose to work. 

 

KC – Yeah, and then we think systemically and zoom out and sort of, I think so much we blame ourselves for like oh I’m distracted, this is my fault, but actually systemically there’s something going on because all of us are feeling distracted by our phones. 

 

MF – That’s it. 

 

KC – And we need to take that big step out.

 

MF – Yes. Well, and what's lovely as we are closing, it's a lovely thing if we can just look at how deep and wide our conversation went just by paying attention to the noise and the visible and visual signals that we have outside. That's why I think systems inspired coaching and what we really see as the systems inspired relationship between us, that third entity, is all about paying attention to what is around us and being clear about what is mine to do. And what is not mine. Not this lifetime. And then how do I reject that without creating a war? So it's really the moment we slow down in these conversations, there's massive information and you can just see how even in this conversation where it started, shifted. Insides are both outside and I'm hoping that as people have been listening, that they also paid attention to the quantum flirts that have been happening around them and that maybe there’s a different understanding of what is mine to pay attention to and do something about, and what is spam that turns up that I just need to say no to. Not a judgement! It’s just not mine to pick up. 

 

KC – That’s great. I really love that. Slowing down, really seeing what’s there, and then we have more choice. Thank you Marita, I've loved geeking out with you. Clearly, quantum physics gets both of us going, it’s so much fun. 

 

MF – Well, one of the things that I love about our discussions is that nothing is scripted and as we go in we don’t quite know what’ll come out of the other side, but because we trust the process and we trust this kind of transparency and openness, it just about always delivers something new, for each of us as well, not just for those who might be listening. 

 

KC – Yes, and, yes and, it was wonderful as always, thank you Marita. Thank you so much and we’ll speak again soon. 

 

MF – Thank you so much. Thank you Katie, talk soon, bye. 

 

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KC – I want to say a huge thanks, as always to Marita Frijon for her wise words. And also to say that as soon as we stopped recording my headset ran out of batteries so if anything that was a sign from the universe that it was time to close our call. Here are my key takeaways. When we pay attention to quantum flirts, whether that be a phone ringing or a change in weather, we help ourselves to slow down and see situations differently. What insight might the world around you be able to offer you? Whilst we can’t pay attention to all the quantum flirts in our lives, it can be useful to notice patterns of signals. Signals that repeatedly show up. What insight might that repeating signal offer to you about your own life or a situation you’ve found yourself in? Leaning into unexpected interruptions by using a ‘yes, and’ mindset helps us to build from as opposed to blocking this wider wisdom. ‘Yes, and’ is both language you use to create from whatever shows up, and it’s also an attitude we can bring to all areas of our lives. When we not only tolerate but create from certain distractions and unexpected interruptions in our lives we can use these unexpected curveball moments as bridges for connection and creativity. For over 18 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time. We believe Relationship Matters from humanity to nature to the larger whole. 

 

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