In this episode, Katie is talking with Bill Donaldson, Doris Saouma, and Michella Welstead about ORSC Coaching Circles, a community-led Worldwork initiative. ORSC Coaching Circles are 100% led and run by a community of change agents from around the world. They embrace the RSI Principles and welcome all ORSC practitioners to fill a role and ultimately evolve the larger world system we are part of. Throughout this conversation, they discuss:
Getting in touch: ORSC Coaching Circles are open to those who've completed training on ORSC tools and would like to come together with others to experience and practice the tools in a safe and supportive environment. To be added to the monthly announcements or find out more information, please click here or email orsc.coachingcircle@gmail.com.
Bill Donaldson is a husband to Amy, father to Katie and Greg, and grandfather to Nathaniel, living in Charleston, SC. Bill is passionate about making people’s lives better through his leadership in Business Transformation and Team Coaching. He is passionate about women's allyship with a goal to impact 100K women to retain or re-join the STEM workforce. Bill is an ICF ACC certified coach and a Gold Tier #IamRemarkable facilitator.
Doris Saouma supports leaders and organizations in defining and living their legacy while building better workplaces, cultures, and countries. She works with leaders globally in various sectors, including private banks, central banks, consulting firms, hedge funds, sovereign funds, private equities, trading agencies, pharma companies, insurance companies, as well as governmental and non-governmental organizations. Her work experience ranges from supporting individual leaders in developing their leadership skills and upgrading their careers to accompanying teams in collaborating for higher impact.
Michella Welstead grew up in Australia and now calls the Netherlands home. She comes from a background in data management and data-driven transformation. Along the way, she’s seen firsthand how critical team dynamics are to organizational success. She now incorporates ORSC coaching tools in her work in agile transformations to help individuals, teams, and organizations unleash their creativity, embrace collaboration, and transition towards improved performance.
For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time
We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.
In this episode, Katie is talking with Bill Donaldson, Doris Saouma, and Michella Welstead about ORSC Coaching Circles, a community-led Worldwork initiative. ORSC Coaching Circles are 100% led and run by a community of change agents from around the world. They embrace the RSI Principles and welcome all ORSC practitioners to fill a role and ultimately evolve the larger world system we are part of. Throughout this conversation, they discuss:
Getting in touch: ORSC Coaching Circles are open to those who've completed training on ORSC tools and would like to come together with others to experience and practice the tools in a safe and supportive environment. To be added to the monthly announcements or find out more information, please click here or email orsc.coachingcircle@gmail.com.
Bill Donaldson is a husband to Amy, father to Katie and Greg, and grandfather to Nathaniel, living in Charleston, SC. Bill is passionate about making people’s lives better through his leadership in Business Transformation and Team Coaching. He is passionate about women's allyship with a goal to impact 100K women to retain or re-join the STEM workforce. Bill is an ICF ACC certified coach and a Gold Tier #IamRemarkable facilitator.
Doris Saouma supports leaders and organizations in defining and living their legacy while building better workplaces, cultures, and countries. She works with leaders globally in various sectors, including private banks, central banks, consulting firms, hedge funds, sovereign funds, private equities, trading agencies, pharma companies, insurance companies, as well as governmental and non-governmental organizations. Her work experience ranges from supporting individual leaders in developing their leadership skills and upgrading their careers to accompanying teams in collaborating for higher impact.
Michella Welstead grew up in Australia and now calls the Netherlands home. She comes from a background in data management and data-driven transformation. Along the way, she’s seen firsthand how critical team dynamics are to organizational success. She now incorporates ORSC coaching tools in her work in agile transformations to help individuals, teams, and organizations unleash their creativity, embrace collaboration, and transition towards improved performance.
For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to build stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time
We believe Relationship Matters, from humanity to nature, to the larger whole.
Key
KC – Katie Churchman
BD - Bill Donaldson
DS - Doris Saouma
MW - Michella Welstead
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KC – Hello and welcome back to the Relationship Matters podcast. We believe relationship matters, from humanity, to nature, to the larger whole. I’m your host Katie Churchman and I’m delighted to welcome you back to the show with a special world work bonus episode on coaching circles. In this episode I’m talking with Bill Donaldson, Doris Saouma and Michella Welstead about ORSC coaching circles – a community-led world work initiave. The ORSC coaching circles are 100% led and run by a community of change agents from around the world. They embrace the RSI Principles and welcome ORSC practitioners to fill a role and ultimately evolve the larger world system we are part of. In this conversation we discuss the inspiration behind ORSC coaching circles; how they work; their high dream for the initiative; and the importance of world work. Bill Donaldson is a husband to Amy, father to Katie and Greg, and grandfather to Nathaniel, living in Charleston, South Carolina. Bill is passionate about making people’s lives better through his leadership in Business Transformation and Team Coaching. He is passionate about women's allyship with a goal to impact 100K women to retain or re-join the STEM workforce. Bill is an ICF ACC certified coach and a Gold Tier ‘I am Remarkable’ facilitator. Doris Saouma supports leaders and organizations in defining and living their legacy while building better workplaces, cultures, and countries. She works with leaders globally in various sectors, including private banks, consulting firms, hedge funds, trading agencies, pharma companies, as well as governmental and non-governmental organizations. Her work experience ranges from supporting individual leaders in developing their leadership skills and upgrading their careers to accompanying teams in collaborating for higher impact. Michella Welstead grew up in Australia and now calls the Netherlands home. She comes from a background in data management and data-driven transformation. Along the way, she’s seen firsthand how critical team dynamics are to organizational success. She now incorporates ORSC coaching tools in her work in agile transformations and change to help individuals, teams, and organizations unleash their creativity, embrace collaboration, and transition towards improved performance. So without further ado I bring you Bill, Doris and Michella, talking about ORSC coaching circles.
KC – Bill, Michella, Doris, welcome to the Relationship Matters podcast, I am delighted to have the three of you on the show today, welcome.
DS - Hi Katie, thank you.
MW - Thanks Katie.
KC – So today were talking about ORSC coaching circles and before we dive into what the coaching circles are about and how they started, I wonder if you could each tell me a bit about your ORSC journey so what brought you to this work and where are you currently in the training.
BD – So I’ll start. So, I was introduced to ORSC as a client and then feeling the impact of the tools and then as I completed my ISF certification, went out and sampled more tools and fell, kind of fell in love with ORSC and as far as certification or journey goes, I’ve completed the formal training classes, I’m kind of building the courage to use the ORSC tools more often, have bigger impact.
DS – Yeah, so I can take it from there, I started ORSC around 2019 actually, it was probably one of the very last face to face ones before Covid, it ended in 2020 with me, and then I got the chance, the privilege I would say to be back hosting all of the series once more and this is when I got to see the tools from a different perspective, rather than from the student but from an assistance and a tech post, so I got to be in the back of the room with the leaders and I saw how they prepared for these classes which was really, really nice, and I’m very happy to say that I’ve just joined more of them and I’m going to be starting certification in two weeks. So yeah, this is where I am in my journey.
KC – Congratulations Doris, that’s an exciting part of the journey, the certification step.
DS – Thanks Katie.
MW – And I’ll pick up there. So my journey started where I’ve been working the last two years in large organizations, literally in teams and in companies, and I’ve had, I’ve noticed that in those teams I, obviously as well as the others, were often struggling and it didn’t make sense why. And after being in a particularly, I don’t want to describe it as painful but almost obstructive environments, I ended up realizing I wanted to understand more about this team dynamic and because I’d worked with individuals who were really nice and really well intentioned but when we came together as a team or that team came together with others in the organization it really wasn’t working and it was costing a lot of energy and brining a lot of negativity into my own personal life. So I decided when I finished that role that I wanted to go and look more into formal coaching training, so my background is not formal coaching but I’d always been interested and kind of used it, and the ORSC at work course came up as being something that could be used with teams and I thought well, if I could learn it and understand it then when I’d join my next role I’d be better positioned to figure out how is this team working, what are the dynamics of this team? And so I started with the ORSC at work course and Katie, you were actually one of the trainers. And that was also at the end of the Covid period so it was the online course and for me it was then can I, doing this online was a really interesting experience in how great something can feel online instead of draining, so I did that then.
KC – Thanks you. What a diverse mix of backgrounds and also ways into this work. What our listeners don’t know is that we’re representing, I believe, four countries on this call today, and so I’m curious about firstly how did coaching circles come about and how did the three of you come together to make this initiative happen?
BD – So, Katie, it started with realm, deep realm. So I fell back in what I’ve been doing with the local ICF chapter, in doing coaching circles, I said let’s practice, let’s find some of these other change management techniques, right, because we’re doing a transformation. As we’re going through ORSC, right, it’s a transformation, and so how can we bring in some of these other tools such as coaching circles to practice, because the tools are very deep, so I reached out into the community for chat and I said I’m starting these things up, who wants to join, and I got over like a 120 people saying count me in. And then I thought ohoh, I have people in like New Zealand and I’m like I’m in the States, I can’t service people in India, New Zealand, Europe, I could barely handle the time zones in the States so I sent out a call and I said who wants to help? And I knew the system would respond and they did.
MW – And I might pick up there. And that was when, I’d literally just, I think a week before I’d done the course and been told you can login and can see the forum there. And I’d already kept a few numbers and sent in my training group ‘hey, does anyone want to practice?’ I also, when I did that I was like but I don’t really know what I’m doing, I’ve only really done four mornings, what will I do, and so Bill’s message was kind of landing already on my email as like oh, somebody else wants to meet them and it was really then much easier to respond to that. And the reason I put my hand up because I knew that if I didn’t stay connected to practicing, if I just did it as a course and then did nothing more with it it would very quickly fade and I wanted to stay connected for a couple of reasons. One was the positive energy of the group that were in my call, all new people joining it. I’d gone into this thinking oh it’s going to be online and you know, we do some team work, what’s that going to be like, and the connection between the people in the call, within an hour of using the tools and having basically, I wouldn’t say smashed together but we were all brought together totally not knowing each other, here, try this, we very quickly over those four mornings, I felt very connected and the whole group felt very connected and I thought if I could stay connected to people who are willing to show up, willing to turn up and willing to share and be there, this is going to be something that I really want in my life.
DS – Yeah, I also saw this email and I said yeah, why not. Especially having run these hosting groups with the other leaders, and I saw people, every time it was a different course a different group of people always saying at the very end I wish we could stay together, I wish we could meet up again, I wish we could have these group practice to stay in connection. And there was this email. And actually one story, my last cohort, the one I did for the last class, the last course in January 2020 and in the UK, we stayed connected for 2 years. We were meeting once every other week for 2 years and it was one of the best moments of my month, if you wish. We became very close, we became close friends, and this is how it transformed. So when I saw Bill’s email I said there’s a lot of potential there for people to create relationship, to create community and also to practice when is something they all voiced at one point or the other on their classes or on their journey.
KC – That’s brilliant, I mean that really talks to the power of systems being naturally intelligent, generative and creative. And what I love about this is you’re all in different stages of your journey and yet there’s never an opportunity too soon to start practicing this stuff. If we don’t use it we lose it and I think some people wait until the certification program to actually start practicing, but the more we practice it the more it becomes alive and the more it lives in our life and then our leadership and our work. I love that you’ve taken the initiative to step in at different stages and just try this. I’m curious about how the coaching circles work, so what do they look like? Is their freedom to fail?
BD – I’ll start, I think absolutely, and that’s the thing is imagine joining us in one of these groups and you call in and somebody’s been there and they’ve been in on some of the earliest ORSC classes, they’re certified, 20+ years of coaching, MCCd and they go I’m really not sure how to use this tool – that’s courage. Whether it be them or somebody that just took the class like Michella and then joined the circle, it’s a place where people come. These are groups where people are genuine, they’re honest, their guards are down and it’s just what can we learn from each other, how can we grow as a community? So it’s just this warmth and failure and learning, and sometimes it’s great and sometimes it’s a little bumpy, like all of life, right? So that’s sort of what I see in them.
KC – I’m glad you underlined as well the fact that there are so many tools. Across the series there are 40 tools and I believe around 27 new skills and so we all have our favorites. Even being a faculty member now, I have my favorite tools and there are ones that I practice less and so this is just such a way of keeping on your toes – is that how you found it to be for yourselves?
DS – Yeah, so I’ll take it, I’ll take a stab at this. So we have some form of structure which is the regular check in, the DTA that has evolved throughout, I’m at least speaking for the Europe circle right, I don’t know Bill if you have a DTA as well, but we have a DTA that has been formed throughout these, I don’t know, a year, more than a year now. And we show it every time at the beginning of every session and we see if anybody has to do or to change or to add anything to this one and then we step into the tool. So the tools, sometimes, are pre-set, now, Michella and I, for the European circle, have been really, really pushing for people to step in, to try and lead a tool, a tool of their choice, even if it has been done before but maybe with a twist, maybe with a new scenario, maybe with a new topic, so the invitation here is for everybody to try and step in. Sometimes when it’s a big tool we stay and planaree, when it’s a smaller tool we go to breakout rooms and this is where the practice happens. So people are either practicing in the planaree, moving the baton from one coach to the other, or we go back to the planaree and have the way we used to have in the courses, the 20 minutes split in 2 and somebody is a coach at first and then the second time. But failure is definitely accepting the other as part of the DTA, so everybody knows that when they step into this circle they are there to learn, nobody knows more than the other and everything so at some point we are here to support each other and to grow and learn together.
MW – And I think I might add as well, of course, when I’d started I’d literally done the course in the previous couple of weeks. So, it was a question for me how on earth am I going to host one of the calls when there’s going to be people coming in who either know the tools or are experienced coaches, and so I never told you two but I actually timed my call evenings so that I will have had Doris’ call first, and I had planned, I thought maybe I could video Bill’s call, so I was buffering myself with that and then I think what happened was seeing the people that came in and seeing that people were not coming in with a, they were not coming in with a hard expectation of being trained, they were first of all just turning up and saying oh, not sure what to expect, and then more people have become regulars, and I think knowing what worked and what didn’t work, that’s become a lot easier now to know, when you need to switch over to the next section of getting feedback. So it’s, the group and the calls have also, I think, developed over that time and the individuals coming in as well.
KC – Sounds like you’ve created such a supportive environment for practice and I don’t think we can ever practice this work enough, like the design team alliance, you might know how to do it perhaps in one scenario with one team but suddenly you’ve got to do it with your family around some kind of family dynamic and it’s a whole other can of worms. And I think keeping on our toes with this, it’s just amazing. Practice is what makes us practitioners. And so, yeah, how has it impacted you because I guess you’re both facilitating and practicing in these circles – have you noticed a change in confidence, perhaps, in your ability to use these tools with your clients or with your teams?
BD – So I think the word is getting comfortable with ORSCness, right? So there’s this idea, it came up in training right, ORSCness, that you’re a little awkward with these tools. So it makes a little comfortable. As you said you have to be on your toes so as you go when you’re coaching or working with the system, what comes to mind? And it’s not always pre-planned, you can’t always pre-plan these, so having Katie said, you know, they feel like thousands of tools but there’s 40 or… the more skilled you are, the more knowledgeable of them, the more apt you are to use them. And I think that’s in service, right, we’re using these tools not for us but in service. So how do we best meet the system, use these tools to reveal, right? Align and get actions. Because at the end that’s really what it is, it’s about can this system advance. Michella talked about it, right, we all show up in slight dysfunctional organizations, right, that’s life, and by using these tools we can just kind of remove a little bit of that and make things better.
KC – What I love about this approach is that, well, firstly it really is living that principle that a system is naturally intelligent, generative and creative. But it’s also community-led and given that this is such a global initiative, I believe it spans three time zones, what are some of the principles that help to guide these community-led spaces for coaches?
MW – I’m gonna step in here. I think having the, learning the tools and then seeing the calls and the group and the exercise develop over the last year, the principle is to, is to make it live. And I think you’re kind of saying that Katie, the aim of the tool is to reveal the system to itself, this is the system but even in the call it is people experiencing the tools themselves. And not always being just the practitioner of the tool for others. And I think we’ve had some really wonderful feedback from people who’ve been using the tool not always in a position to experience the tool and in the call people get to, Doris, you did a beautiful one, high dream at the beginning of the year, people got to then look into themselves and be coached and be coached by the tool and coached by the system in that little 90 minute window, and then go away a little bit lighter in their day.
KC – There’s something about being coached in this work that deepens the learning. I remember in my certification, my husband had coaching, ORSC coaching from another practitioner, because you can get I believe an hours towards your 100 hours if you’re coached as a system, and so we went into it quite open-mindedly but didn’t think we were necessarily in a place where we needed anything to be changed and it’s been the most invaluable process for us and it’s helped me to understand these tools and then how my clients show up with these tools in such a deeper way. And I now have coaching with my husband, we’re going through some big life changes and so I love that that’s a big part of it too, it’s not just people practicing being the practitioner, it’s also them being the participant too and standing in those shoes.
DS – Yeah, sometimes also Katie experiencing the tool, on one of our calls we had a visualization and some of the people did not connect to visualization and before we went and debriefed the visualization in breakout rooms of two we had some back and forth about some people who did not feel connected to the visualization, some people who in general they don’t like visualizations, and remember these people are the voices of the systems, your clients could be in those shoes at one point. And then once we went to the debrief sessions in the breakout rooms and they came back there was a lot of awe from what they have learned and what they have experienced, knowing that beforehand they have not really connected to the visualization, so this can only really be experienced, it can’t be told. But once the practitioner experiences this and knows that there’s a threshold maybe, an edge that the clients might sometimes cross it can support them going forward in their own coaching. So unless they have experienced this on their own they probably would be blind or be hidden from the fact that this is a possibility of emergence still, even if they did not connect to the tool. So this is something that is also offered in those sessions, I think. In those circles.
BD – And just trying to piggyback on that, so in the classes we do opportunities for self learning, some self discovery, and that’s really the principle, you have to know yourself, as a coach you have to know yourself, so this both allows you to experience it, so learn about yourself so that as the coach you understand how you’ll show up and I think that’s important too, just not be the practitioner of the tool with the system.
KC – I love that you’re pointing us there, I think that’s the thing about this work, we go into it thinking we’re going to become coach and we realize that it changes so many systems in our life too, personally and professionally.
MW – And I think what the cohorts offer, what the circles offer, is possibly a safer place for people to actually start to talk about what they did or didn’t fully understand or integrate for themselves, so once one of the sessions really stood out for me and this was a tool and I like learning from the ORSC at work which was, of course,
BD – Team toxins.
MW – Thank you, and what ended up happening, because this is one of the first ones I hosted where I’m like totally new, don’t know what I’m doing, was then a discussion about what it actually looked like in practice so then it was a discussion of understanding the tool on a deeper level in a way that you perhaps wouldn’t have as much discussion as easily with your client because of course you’ve got a different expectation, different relationship in how you are turning up in that client relationship.
KC – It seems that experiential learning is key to these coaching circles, it makes me think about my way into ORSC and when I started, before I’d even done my first course I’d read Marita’s book, I’d highlighted so much and I was trying to understand it at that intellect level and I think what we all learn as we deepen our way into this work is that it’s not just about getting it from an intellectual standpoint, it’s about really living it and the metaskills for example, it’s a way of being. And so I imagine there’s quite a lot of lightbulb moments in these sessions, do you see that in the coaching sessions that you run? That things suddenly click for people.
BD – Yeah, I just ran a small one this month and there was a coach and we did informal constellations and he was all of a sudden like, you know, he was the client and all of a sudden I was like you’re smiling and he goes I got it. Right? I got… he got the tools. There was a learning but it was like I get it, I get what this tool can do. It just sort of like, calm, right after that learning, the angst of these tools kind of goes away once you experience them.
DS – Yeah to add to this also, at the end of our sessions we also talk about application. So if we talk about a tool that is done with individuals, for example, debriefing the mansion with one of your clients, how do you do this in a group, how do you do when you’re working with a team or bringing down the vision, for example, with a person or with a team? We always look at ways to practice this, how did any, did anyone try it with their clients, what works, what didn’t work, what worked right now in this breakout room with you and what didn’t work, what can we do better? So also looking, taking the step back and looking from different lenses through the experience of all peers on the call and see what they have learned and what was harvested from the calls is a learning experience in of itself along with the refresher of the tool and the practice, the gain that has been taken on a personal level. So a lot can be taken from these tools, as I look back and from a distance now.
KC – It feels like there’s such a harvesting of knowledge in each of the coaching circles because everyone’s tried this in different ways perhaps in their own lands so then you can learn from each other’s wins and perhaps fails and then together start to grow your ORSC competencies I would say.
DS – Yeah.
KC – I’m curious, what’s your high dream for these coaching circles? You’re already working across three time zones, what do you hope happens next, I guess?
MW – Big question.
KC – It is a big question.
KC – And I think the reason for me it’s a big question is I have felt very motivated, even before this, to find a way to bring people together and be part of that. It’s a little bit of that I would like to change the world but that’s a pretty big exercise! And so I had a moment a few months ago when we did the, with Bill and D beside me, I have wanted to do something like this, it was just how to make this sustainable, how to make this happen, so this has been just the universe giving me this opportunity through Bill and through Doris, and something happened when we were doing the deep democracy exercise and we had like 15, more than 15 people on the call sharing different views, and of course it’s an exercise about people listening and hearing and empathizing with each other and it was suddenly this realization that this is what I’d wanted to see happening, is that being part of affecting change and impacting people and then ultimately then having a greater potential to go and do the same, and all I can say is like the ripple effect, so for this, even for the coaching circles, for this to be a place where people come and they recharge, but also see that they may want to take this forward either as a coaching circle or as something else, where they take the action to be grassroots change or inspiring.
BD – I love, Michella, inspiring, right, my high dream is that people are inspired. Not necessarily to come to coaching circle but just to practice these tools and as Michella said, to learn how to use them. Just maybe go back, connect to their original myth. Because this is what most of us started with, right, this original myth. So you know, what will it take to bring these tools forward and have impact because we’re all world workers, I know we’re going to talk about world work but we’re all world workers whether we’re intentional about it or not, and I guess that’s really, how do we be more intentional in this world work, using these tools?
KC – I love what you just said there about, well, firstly, Michella, you are changing the world one system at a time so thank you for doing the work, and Bill when you said about being inspired to practice, I do think many of us wait because we’re not ready and I think that’s not just in relation to this work and these tools but in so many areas of our life, we’re not ready to start the business yet because I haven’t got the marketing or the investment and it’s almost like we’re putting our lives on hold until it’s perfect and this seems to get rid of that idea of perfection and it just jumps in and tries anyway, I think there’s something so wonderful about that because that’s what our world needs, that ripple effect from trying without needing it to be perfect because as we know perfect doesn’t really exist. You mentioned world work. This very much feels like your world work, that’s what I’m going to call it. This is your contribution of this world out into the world and so I wonder, what’s your call to action to our listeners?
DS – I would say come and try, you know, come in and try and add to whatever you bring in to this space because you’re going to make it better, whatever that is.
BD – So I think it’s for me on this, it’s practice, try. And you don’t know where you’re going to have impact so go live the biggest life. Do it. Be it coaching circles or practicing with a colleague or writing a, the hidden handbook for ORSC or whatever it is that gives you the confidence out there, because again, you start the ripples, we don’t know where the ripples are going to happen.
MW – And my action is find people to connect with.
KC – Thank you so much for brining these coaching circles to the world. What a supportive, holistic and systems inspired space to practice this work but also to push it further out into the world. I can already feel the ripples and I’m certain you’ve inspired all of our listeners to practice maybe through coaching circles but also in their own way, as you said Bill, there’s so many ways we can practice, it might be with our family, with our colleagues, with our friends. And so to go out and try. Before we close our conversation I want to check, is there anything final that you want to share, there might be a story or a takeaway that you might have had from these coaching circles that you’d love to share and leave our listeners with.
MW – Mine might be having the opportunity to hear other perspective and to make opportunities in your life for that. So obviously the coaching circles are one but also I’d say outside of that, because you never know when your connection with somebody is going to give you the different perspective you needed to take a different decision or to not take a decision or to just put things in perspective, maybe this isn’t such a big problem as I thought or, I’d say that would be my one message, having more opportunities to be influenced.
DS – You know, well, it is a transformational space and from everything you’ve said I love also what Michella just said, that through one conversation, and who knows when and how and with whom, one conversation can change, can change a decision and have a big impact on your life, so take this opportunity. We’re all at crossroads one way or the other, big or small, but just be there for one another, create community, yeah, be open to receive, so this is what I say, and there’s a lot that can happen there, you never know when, you never know where, just be open.
KC – That’s beautiful and really speaks to the power of relationship. You really don’t know where these ripples go and I just want to celebrate the diversity in this group and the fact that you’ve never met each other in real life and yet you have this incredible support group and network to hold these initiatives together across three time zones. So massive thanks and applause to you all for doing this amazing work and for sending ripples out into the world. Thank you so much for sharing your world work today and for inspiring myself and our listeners.
DS – Thank you Katie. It’s been a pleasure.
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KC – Thank you to Bill, Doris and Michella for coming on the show and talking about the ORSC coaching circle initiative, a world work special. The ORSC coaching circles are open to those who have completed training on ORSC tools and would like to come together with others to experience and practice the tools in a safe and supportive environment. The ORSC coaching circles are 100% community-led. To be added to the monthly announcements or to find out more information please email ORSC.coachingcircle@gmail.com. Thank you for listening to the Relationship Matters podcast. If you enjoyed this episode please share it with your colleagues and friends so that we can continue to spread these ideas across the globe, and if you haven’t already, do subscribe wherever you get your podcasts to make sure you never miss an episode. And for more information on the ORSC courses please visit CRRGlobal.com. For over 20 years, CRR Global has accompanied leaders, teams, and practitioners on their journey to stronger relationships by focusing on the relationship itself, not only the individuals occupying it. This leads to a community of changemakers around the world. Supported by a global network of Faculty and Partners, we connect, inspire, and equip change agents to shift systems, one relationship at a time. We believe Relationship Matters from humanity to nature to the larger whole.
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